MMA Roundtable: UFC 153 Fallout

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MMA Roundtable: UFC 153 Fallout

 MMA Roundtable: UFC 153 Fallout

| Big Jeff vs. PK Mills |

Coming off the heels of UFC 153, some serious questions were raised.  We saw the fulfilling of some promises and some careers seriously set back.  This is a discussion among two Strong-Athlete editors about the implications of last weekend’s fight card.

Q:  Should Mario Yamasaki be put under some kind of review after another bad job at reffing?

Big Jeff: 

I’m sick and tired of watching Mario Yamasaki make bad calls in the UFC; one of the most recent in my mind was the Erick Silva DQ.  Bad calls in the UFC are dangerous calls.  That fight should have been stopped earlier on; there were a few opportunities throughout the fight to stop it.  There is no excuse for it to have to be stopped by doctors in this case.  Frankly, there are a lot of people out there who are qualified to ref and would probably do a much better job than him.  He’s set the bar real low.

PK Mills:

At one point, Yamasaki and Yves Lavigne were running neck and neck for title of MMA’s worst referee. That distinction clearly belongs to Yamasaki now. He’s a danger to the fighters. How many elbows to the face does a guy have to take before he thinks it’s a good idea to step in and call it?

Q:  Looking at Anderson Silva’s fight history, has he really fought a number of great fighters or just a bunch of Bonnars?

Big Jeff:

Here is a list of Anderson’s UFC wins:  Chris Leben, Rich Franklin (Twice), Travis Lutter, Nate Marquardt, Dan Henderson, James Irvin, Patrick Cote, Thales Leites, Forrest Griffin, Demian Maia, Chael Sonnen (Twice), Vitor Belfort, Yushin Okami and Stephan Bonnar.

I’m gonna get killed for this but I don’t think that Anderson has faced a huge number of top tier opponents.  Frankly, his opponent list is watered down with some pretty easy fights.  In fact, I’d say the vast majority of his fights in the UFC have been against substandard talent.  That being said, the implications of his record just mean that much less to me than if it had been packed with top tier names.  I’m not disrespecting anyone here; I’m just calling it like I see it.  James Irvin would kick my ass but didn’t stand a chance against Silva or any other higher level fighter.  I think that he is in a division that had some good names, but not the best talent.

PK Mills:

Anderson is so good that he makes quality fighters look very average. He demolished Rich Franklin, who was something like 22-2 at the time and one of the pound-for-pound kings. He submitted Dan Henderson, a legend and future Hall Of Famer. His fight against Forrest Griffin (former light-heavyweight champion) was comical. Whoever the UFC has thrown at him, Anderson has dealt with in convincing fashion. His legacy as one of the greatest of all time is indisputable  With the exception of Jon Jones, there is no one in the welterweight, middleweight or light-heavyweight divisions that can beat him.

Has Anderson Silva earned his “all-time greatest” status or is he just a pretty good fighter in a weak division?

 Q:  Is Glover Teixeira everything that the Iceman Chuck Liddell promised?  Or did he just face a sub-par opponent in order to hype him up?

PK Mills:

I was impressed with his performance, but I still need to see more from Glover to be convinced he is the real deal. I think he’ll get past Rampage, but Rampage is disinterested in the fight game and is not the same killer he once was. If he can handle someone like Phil Davis or Shogun or Rashad, I’ll be a believer.

Big Jeff: 

I think Glover has some huge potential.  It looks like he may be fighting Rampage next.  Rampage is going to be a real test, unlike Moldonado, and I think a win will graduate him to that next level.

Q:  Who is next for Jon Fitch and what has Erick Silva’s loss done to his hype machine?

Big Jeff: 

Erick Silva is young and he can come back from this loss.  He’s got the talent; he just needs to work on completing his game.  Fitch was a bad style match up for him and as we know, styles make fights. I would like to see Fitch play the role of the gate-keeper for title contenders in his next bout.  Fitch is a veteran, he’s tough and he’s a great test for anyone looking to go after the title, e.g. Rory MacDonald.

PK Mills:

Fitch is a certified bad ass, but as long as GSP is in the division, his chances at winning the title are next to zero. I would like to see him fight someone like Nick Diaz. That could be interesting. Erick Silva just has to get back in the win column against a top 10 opponent and he’ll be in the mix.

 

Jon Fitch is truly one of the elite in the welterweight division, but will he ever have enough tools to beat GSP?

Q:  After proving that BJJ works, should Nogueira retire?

Big Jeff: 

No.  He’s a legend and he can obviously still hang and bang.  The media needs to lay off him and let him just finish out his career the way he wants to.

PK Mills:

Yes, call it a day already. You have nothing to prove. The Reem, Velasquez, and your protégé JDS are the elite of the division. Walk away with a win under your belt and move on to the next chapter of your life. BTW, Jiu Jitsu has always worked. Good to see “Big Nog” pull of another slick submission last weekend.

Q:  What does Phil Davis have to do to get a title shot?

PK Mills:

Davis needs to beat two top-10 opponents in style (knockout or submission) before we can start talking about him as a legitimate title contender. Also, he has to stay healthy. Injuries have been tough on him.

 Big Jeff: 

Phil Davis had a great showing against Wagner Prado.  But let’s be honest, Wagner didn’t seem to be a big test for Davis.  I think that an eventual rematch between Rashad and Phil would be the testing ground for a Phil Davis title shot.

If Phil Davis can defeat two top-10 light heavies next year in grand style, he could be next in line for a UFC title shot..

 Q:  If Anderson, or any fighter, goes on to super fight territory, should he have to vacate his belt?

Big Jeff: 

I don’t think that going into a super fight should necessarily mean that you have to vacate your belt.  However, if a fighter fights out of his weight class more than once in a row, they should have to vacate the belt.  It isn’t fair to put an entire division on hold while the Champ is fighting outside of the weight class.  If Anderson’s next fight is a super fight, he should have to vacate his belt.

PK Mills:

The only way a fighter should have to give up his belt is when he loses. Anderson taking on a super-fight against Georges or Jon Jones is great for the fans and the sport. The fighter shouldn’t be punished by vacating his belt. Definitely looking forward to seeing one of these super-fights happen next year – the UFC needs a jolt of energy after going through some growing pains this year.

 

By |October 17th, 2012|Archives|

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